tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17813352.post4169602441121851570..comments2023-10-11T03:32:43.592-06:00Comments on Fencing With the Fog: Suspension of DisbeliefMaryAn Batchellorhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02465966881051431143noreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17813352.post-74678430705848096882008-12-17T00:43:00.000-06:002008-12-17T00:43:00.000-06:00Gracias.Gracias.MaryAn Batchellorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02465966881051431143noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17813352.post-64308640124891530962008-12-17T00:39:00.000-06:002008-12-17T00:39:00.000-06:00clearest, most coherent clarification of this subt...clearest, most coherent clarification of this subtle, oft-overlooked issue...mernitmanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09185401856113179709noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17813352.post-42604968825886463812008-08-08T10:11:00.000-06:002008-08-08T10:11:00.000-06:00That criticism always confuses me, politicians exp...That criticism always confuses me, politicians expect us to do the same thing every four years :)Grubberhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10435524784373114313noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17813352.post-31354561650658798682008-08-05T17:01:00.000-06:002008-08-05T17:01:00.000-06:00That may be what others have said as well, Eddie. ...That may be what others have said as well, Eddie. I don't remember what the "suspension of disbelief" arguments were. But, it's a valid point. The Joker's genius may be a bit of stretch even for a comic book. That didn't bother me but I was a little disappointed that they LITERALLY left the Joker hanging. He's foiled them time and time again so did they get him this time? Put him in jail? Did he escape on the way? I guess all that remains to be seen.<BR/><BR/>All that said, I thought it was a great film. Maybe not as great as everyone else thinks, but great.MaryAn Batchellorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02465966881051431143noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17813352.post-39005086849184589532008-08-05T16:33:00.000-06:002008-08-05T16:33:00.000-06:00SPOILER***I didn't hate TDK, but I didn't love it ...SPOILER<BR/>*<BR/>*<BR/>*<BR/>I didn't hate TDK, but I didn't love it either. They crammed a lot of stuff in there, and I definitely felt that last half hour(in a bad way).<BR/><BR/>As for suspension of disbelief, even in a comic movie, I felt the Joker's alway being one step ahead of the police and Batman, hard to swallow. He's pretty much captured or figured out several times, only to have some already in-motion plan for his escape. Based on the rest of the movie, there's no reason for us to even think the Joker will wind up in jail; he'll simply have some other "magic plan already set up" and the police will have to release him. <BR/><BR/>The way to fix this would be to show or hint at some of these plans being set up without giving away the details. If your character's going to pull a magic rock out of her pocket to foil their enemy, then at least show us her searching for magic rocks, or polishing a mysterious rock, etc. <BR/><BR/>Nice post, MaryAn, always something to keep in mind.Eddie Mhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06746025335228299120noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17813352.post-19009648114077726272008-08-05T07:42:00.000-06:002008-08-05T07:42:00.000-06:00It's funny you mention Stephen King because I have...It's funny you mention Stephen King because I have the same issue with several of his books. <BR/><BR/>I can't remember the specifics of the Dark Knight comments. Seems like it had to do with Harvey Dent's arc and the whole keeping him a hero thing. I think some critics are just looking for something, ANYTHING, they can fault. Most of the film critics I've read and heard had only good things to say, though.<BR/><BR/>The moment you mention was a little snag for me, too, but only in so far as I knew it was coming. The set up was to prove that the moral compass of most of humanity didn't blur the lines between good and evil, cruelty and compassion, etc. I was okay with it but saw it coming. I don't know if that's because I was looking for it or if everyone else saw that, too.MaryAn Batchellorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02465966881051431143noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17813352.post-28971909303028191352008-08-04T20:44:00.000-06:002008-08-04T20:44:00.000-06:00Well, that's the last time I sign in with OpenID. ...Well, that's the last time I sign in with OpenID. Links to a blog I don't maintain. Huh.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17813352.post-50990398307518384502008-08-04T20:42:00.000-06:002008-08-04T20:42:00.000-06:00Interesting point. I do think it's a matter of est...Interesting point. I do think it's a matter of establishing the "rules" of your world up front. You run the risk of the audience balking if you wait too long to play your hand. <BR/><BR/>This is one of the reasons I never finished reading Stephen King's THE STAND, which everyone else on the planet seems to think is his best book. Until Flagg shows up, the whole book is a very plausible science fiction story. Half-way through, it turned into fantasy. I love fantasy, but the left turn was too sharp and I couldn't stay with it. <BR/><BR/>Something that's always fascinated me, though, was how well the fantastical creatures (animated, no less!) worked in LIFE AQUATIC WITH STEVE ZISSOU. Not everyone liked the film, so I may be in the minority, but it really worked for me and for the life of me I can't see why. <BR/><BR/>Similarly I know some people just could not get past the flying in CROUCHING TIGER. I totally bought into it. <BR/><BR/>Maybe there's just no pleasing some people. <BR/><BR/>As for DARK KNIGHT, I can't imagine what people are bitching about. Do you know of any specifics? I'll tell you the one place I did bump -- <BR/><BR/>SPOILER<BR/><BR/>When the man on the ferry decided he couldn't pull the trigger on the detonator after all. It was just too easy, and didn't feel earned. <BR/><BR/>And sometimes I think that's another thing that audiences are reacting to when they say they lost their suspension of disbelief -- that the filmmakers didn't earn the moment. It was too quick, too convenient, or just too easy.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com